Use of the word "cunt" and Misogyny

[tenni]

Is the use of the word “cunt” on bisexual.com derogatory towards women and misogynistic?


Is the use of the word “cunt” on bi.com (http://bi.com) attracting bisexual women or turning them off?

Does the use of the word "cunt" attract and arouse male bisexuals to bi.com?

Should the use of the word "cunt" be encouraged and rationlized as all PC bullshit concerns?


Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women.

[charles-smythe]

Is the use of the word “cunt” on bisexual.com derogatory towards women and misogynistic?


Is the use of the word “cunt” on bi.com (http://bi.com) attracting bisexual women or turning them off?

Does the use of the word "cunt" attract and arouse male bisexuals to bi.com?

Should the use of the word "cunt" be encouraged and rationlized as all PC bullshit concerns?


Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women....no...

[Annika L]

Hmmm...a lot of misogynists certainly use the word. I know that there are places in the US where it is used "complimentarily", just as part of the local culture...so not every use is inherently misogynistic.

However, it is an ugly word to my ear, and its casual use in vulgar contexts gains no enthusiasm from me. "Pussy" I find sexy, though I know others find it offensive. But that's my taste...it's not a huge big deal. I simply won't post on threads where the word is being used in that way. I doubt it's attracting or arousing many women on this site...I don't know what it's doing to the men. It's possible that it's driving or keeping some away...but that strikes me as a bit of an extreme reaction...you'd have to be pretty sensitive to have that word keep you away from a place you might otherwise like to be. On the other hand, people's use of the word does communicate something of their personality to me. So to some extent, I could believe that some women may simply decide from the prevalence of the word that this *isn't* a place they might otherwise like to be.

Now using the word (or any other) to objectify women (i.e., calling a woman a cunt) I *do* find misogynistic. I've always found it linguistically interesting that use (by men or women) of "dick" or "prick" to describe males somehow is *not* meant to objectify them. I think those words simply have a richer meaning and symbol-set associated with them.

I think overall that if people *are* the sorts to prefer that word over others, then I might prefer that they use it, rather than pretending to have sensibilities they don't actually have. I won't get close to them...and perhaps that's their loss; and perhaps it's mine. Just like if women see it and stay away, perhaps that's their loss and perhaps it's ours (I imagine in both cases it very much depends on the person, and there is some win and some loss).

But if a person *is* a misogynist dickhead, I'd prefer to see that up-front, rather than have them skillfully curb their language and make me realize it through extended contact.

[pole_smoker]

...no...
Agreed, it's not misogyny...despite how an ultra-PC Canadian who does not live in reality or understand how language works, and someone else from flyover country in the midwest want to claim it is.

[CurEUs_Male]

As with most four letter words, it can be sexy, it can me an insult. Honestly, I liken the word to the male equivalent of cock... and would prefer it's use as the same.
"I want to suck your cock" and " I wand to lick your cunt" -- all the same to me form a words perspective, the noun I want to orally play with :)

As for calling someone an cock, prick, cunt, or ass... Those are all insults, and typically bring any civil conversation to an end.

Tenni, I doubt is is driving anyone here away from this site, there are much more severe problems of late with the site. I also doubt the use of the word is bringing anyone new to the site.

Annika, I get you don't like the word. My wife is the same way - she takes it as an afront in any manner. I am thankful that your responded, it is good to see a female perspective, especially when some of the original questions were targeted at the female position. I further read your profile, and I love the FAQ/FGA's. Sorry you don't want to meet, you sound like a lot of fun. I like your wit!

[charles-smythe]

…to me the word is so ‘50s’…& to me a ‘cunt’ is a disagreeable person that has a ‘pussy’ between her legs…

[tenni]

"despite how an ultra-PC Canadian who does not live in reality or understand how language works, and someone else from flyover country in the midwest want to claim it is."

violation of rule 2
Be polite. Flame the idea if you feel you must, but not the person.
Deal with the issue not a country of a poster's origin.

[pole_smoker]

"despite how an ultra-PC Canadian who does not live in reality or understand how language works, and someone else from flyover country in the midwest want to claim it is."

violation of rule 2
Be polite. Flame the idea if you feel you must, but not the person.
Deal with the issue not a country of a poster's origin.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody's "flaming you" even though you are the big flaming queen, and professional victim on this site tenni. It's not flaming anyone to point out something factual about them...like that they're Canadian, or are ultra-PC and have let this cloud their judgement and don't look at the facts or live in reality because of being so politically correct. :rolleyes:

[Hoosier]

"despite how an ultra-PC Canadian who does not live in reality or understand how language works, and someone else from flyover country in the midwest want to claim it is."

violation of rule 2
Be polite. Flame the idea if you feel you must, but not the person.
Deal with the issue not a country of a poster's origin.
Fly-over country...gee I wonder who he meant..:)

[pole_smoker]

Fly-over country...gee I wonder who he meant..:)
It's not necessarily you.

[jem_is_bi]

…to me the word is so ‘50s’…& to me a ‘cunt’ is a disagreeable person that has a ‘pussy’ between her legs…
Charles, I agree with you. I like pussy or if there is hair down there I like muff. For men, I use cock or dick. Penis is too scientific a term to stir up passion.

[Annika L]

Annika, I get you don't like the word. My wife is the same way - she takes it as an afront in any manner. I am thankful that your responded, it is good to see a female perspective, especially when some of the original questions were targeted at the female position. I further read your profile, and I love the FAQ/FGA's. Sorry you don't want to meet, you sound like a lot of fun. I like your wit!

I don't like it, but I'm also not militant about it. The important difference for me is between someone else using the word, and someone implicitly asking me to buy into it.

If a man says something like, "I thought her cunt was beautiful," my reaction is "wow, does he not know that offends a lot of women?" But I'm ok, and generally would say nothing.
If a woman says something like, "I love the way he eats my cunt," my reaction is "wow, it's not often you meet a woman who's ok with using that word." But again, I'm fine.

It's when a thread asks something like "Do you like getting your cunt licked?" that I have issues. And not with the question itself, or even the word-use. The problem is that if I respond to the question/poll, I am implicitly using the word to describe my own pussy...and I just won't do that. So I don't. I mean yeah, sure, when all manner of vulgarities are being thrown around, the site takes on a pallor I find less appealing than when there are interesting discussions taking place...questions with some real meat. But I can't get too bent over the use of this one word, unless it is being used in a specifically ugly way.

Anyway, ty for your comments. And I'd say we *have* met...I mean hey, we're talking to each other, right? And it's not like I've never met with anyone from online (or even from this site)...it's just not my mode, and isn't done at all casually.

[Browne]

I suppose it's no different than the use of the word cock in a derogatory manner from a misandric individual.

misandry


[ miˈsandrē ]


NOUN



dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e., the male sex):
"her brand of feminism is just poorly disguised misandry"





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[justafella]

Well, at least I understand the meaning of the words misogyny and misandry a bit better.

[charles-smythe]

Charles, I agree with you. I like pussy or if there is hair down there I like muff. For men, I use cock or dick. Penis is too scientific a term to stir up passion. …I couldn’t agree more…I prefer dick but cock is the more accepted term so I use it…cunt isn’t whats between a girls legs…it’s the hateful person that has a pussy between her legs…

[Realist]

Words certainly have different impacts on different people.

I'm still not comfortable with using, or hearing, FUCK, or MOTHERFUCKER, in general conversations. I don't like the word, cunt, either.........can't remember using in any conversation, even in anger. It sounds harsh and disrespectful to me, but I've heard both genders using those words with little thought about their meaning.

Words draw mental pictures for me...some are pleasant, some give me a feeling of disgust, or indicate disrespect. But, I know the users don't usually mean them that way.

My father was born in Texas. He was raised in harsh conditions of the depression, around hard folks, who were generally good, hardworking, but more often than not, rough-talking individualists. My mother was born and raised in an atmosphere of manners and politeness.

I remember as a child, hearing her admonish my dad for using the word, "SUMBITCH"!

His reply was, "Well, Honey, in Texas, "sumbitch" is a term of endearment..........like; 'Hey, Howard, you old sumbitch, how are you doin'?' !"

With more than a little disgust in her voice, she returned, "Bob, you're no longer in Texas...if you remember, you moved to Florida in 1920!"

Dad was always a Texan, though!

[Melody Dean]

I'm still not comfortable with using, or hearing, FUCK, or MOTHERFUCKER, in general conversations. I don't like the word, cunt, either.........can't remember using in any conversation, even in anger. It sounds harsh and disrespectful to me, but I've heard both genders using those words with little thought about their meaning.


Oops, surely I've used the F word in our conversations at some point... I'm so sorry!!

[naztypanty]

I had always considered "cunt" to be, at the least, crude, if not degrading. The word worked when a female driver cut me off, as I would use "ass hole" for a man.
Then I was dating a woman who used the word regularly to refer to her pussy. One day she said "I want you to fuck my cunt." At first shocked, I got used to it; but I never used it myself to refer to her pussy.

The point is that "cunt" is a word and by itself is just a string of letters. It is context and delivery that defines whether a word is derogatory.

[darkeyes]

I loathe the word under discussion.. I have never used it in my life and never shall. Yes, its use by some people is misogynistic, but not all.. context as they say, is all... and intent. Many words can be and are used in a misogynistic manner... "bitch" is another... get called that 2... was called it recently on site as it happens but dont think misogynistically.. think I just got on his tits during a wee argument.. my equivalent word to a guy who got on mine in the same way wud prob b "bastard". Not cos I think a person is 1, but cos he got on me tits... wud nev use that word 2 a woman... the word "cow" rolls of me lips sometimes cos I love a woman.... bit less tho not much wen they get on me tits.... often, it is m8 and tit get onner in same body:eek2:!

How human beings use language often betrays their worst prejudices... prejudices they would deny of course, but they r there all the same.

If I am honest, I dont like much the word "pussy", but do on occasion use it, although most often I drop the y which by doing so the word miraculously is transformed in2 1 of me faves. Pussy and puss too can be used misogynistically, and some people do... Often I use the word "fanny" when discussing puss.... gud old Brit word and nowt 2 do wiv arse as many of our American cousins seem 2 think.... accusing a guy of being a right fanny can be misandrist, but more often and more likely, we are telling him he is a dithering ninny....

Being Scots I am often called "hen"... the equivalent of calling a guy "cock"... usually both terms are terms of affection but both can be and are used when really slagging a person, not so much because we h8 them as individuals or because of their gender but because we r angry wiv something they have done or sed.. but like many words it doesn't take much of an imagination to turn them into words of contempt and h8..

Like ne1 I can get worked up wen some misogynist and/or arsehole says summat unpleasant and yes I sometimes do go overboard in response, but mostly I let their crap wash over me an try and react, if I react at all, wiv some humour and or some words wich show me as better than some 1 who only h8s and has little else to offer humanity. How successful I am in that is for others to judge.

The C word is the only word in the language wich really raises me hackles, even wen sed as a descriptor in place of vagina, pussy, puss or fanny. I kno wen the word is sed in a misogynistic way, or when a person's use of it betrays his misogyny.... some women use it in such a way as to betray their own misandry or even as seems 2 b becoming more frequent, their own misogyny. So it is not only men loathing women and treating them contemptuously who employ the word... the loathing some women have for men and somrtimes women is revealed by their use of the word also... and occasionally contempt for their own gender.. women too can suffer from a bad dose of misogyny.. just as some men can from misandry...

Ne1 wants 2 act and speak like a bigoted dimwit on site, that is their affair.. fine wiv me.. no skin off my nose... tho I do wish they wud stop acting so childishly and realise the harm they do to their own kind and the cause which they claim to espouse.:)

[charles-smythe]

Words certainly have different impacts on different people.

I'm still not comfortable with using, or hearing, FUCK, or MOTHERFUCKER, in general conversations. I don't like the word, cunt, either.........can't remember using in any conversation, even in anger. It sounds harsh and disrespectful to me, but I've heard both genders using those words with little thought about their meaning.



Words draw mental pictures for me...some are pleasant, some give me a feeling of disgust, or indicate disrespect. But, I know the users don't usually mean them that way.

My father was born in Texas. He was raised in harsh conditions of the depression, around hard folks, who were generally good, hardworking, but more often than not, rough-talking individualists. My mother was born and raised in an atmosphere of manners and politeness.

I remember as a child, hearing her admonish my dad for using the word, "SUMBITCH"!

His reply was, "Well, Honey, in Texas, "sumbitch" is a term of endearment..........like; 'Hey, Howard, you old sumbitch, how are you doin'?' !"

With more than a little disgust in her voice, she returned, "Bob, you're no longer in Texas...if you remember, you moved to Florida in 1920!"

Dad was always a Texan, though! …your dad was right & sumbitch is still something you call a friend…

[SilkyHoseLover]

I've always been annoyed one word describing an object can be clean and another one filthy, nasty or objectionable. Geez, words are words...

But I've also always tried to be considerate of others' feelings and sensitivities. In the case of 'cunt', I'm aware that it's one of the more inflammatory terms, especially among women,so I simply don't use it, period.

And I find it ridiculous that it's acceptable when used by one 'class' of persons, but absolutely verboten and degrading by anyone outside that class. It's 'hate speech' if I say it, but a term of endearment if you use it? Gimme a break...

[tenni]

Yes Silky, words are words.


Words may be used in variety of ways. Words have power to communicate your intent. Words may be used as weapons to try to injure or degrade. I agree with posters who state that it depends how you use them and what your intent is. I think that the word cunt and the word cock by their nature of sound hard crude words while pussy and dick have less negative power.


Without directly addressing mysogny, several women have posted that the do not basically like the word cunt. I suspect most women find the word cunt mysogenistic. When a man uses this word he should understand that he is more than not offending and degrading women.

[Annika L]

I think that the word cunt and the word cock by their nature of sound hard crude words while pussy and dick have less negative power.

When a man uses this word he should understand that he is more [often] than not offending and degrading women.

Your last sentence, I agree with completely, and I have posted that same sentiment before.

But oh, words, words, words! Can't live with 'em; can't live without 'em. Personally, I find cock and pussy to be on par with one another, and "dick" is the one I find more offensive, on the order of "twat". To me both words signify a bit of nothing important, but in a slightly nasty way. They are two other words I won't use, but don't condemn others for using.

Cock and pussy, on the other hand, are both animals that convey positive traits, while admitting a downside. A cock is strong and confident, if sometimes over-posturing or overbearing; a pussy is sleek and lovely when she wants to be, and is independent-minded...if a bit temperamental or skittish. I've never heard of a man being called a cock or woman being called a pussy (although I find it offensive when men are called pussies...that's just way wrong, lol).

Tenni, to "directly address misogyny", I have to say that it is not words, but people who are misogynist. Just as the word "murder" or "gun" is not anti-human, I don't believe words can be misogynistic. But people can be hurt by words, and words can be used to facilitate a *person's* misogyny. And yes, when you post words that you know a group of people are offended by, I think you need to realize that you're being offensive...to ignore that is to be either in denial or genuinely insensitive.

[showmeguy]

There is something important missing in this thread, and that is a little bit of the history of the English language, the most successful language on our planet, with more literature and more good literature than any other language, and this is often attributed to its ability to include words from other languages. I adore my native tongue, and believe it has greater powers of expression, meaning, nuance, precision, concision, and (of course) has more idioms and lends itself to puns and other delights beyond any other language. English has its origins in Anglo-Saxon and the Teutonic branch of languages, as distinct from what are called the Romance languages, those languages descended from the language of the Romans: principally French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian.

However, English was not the official language of England after 1066 when William the Conqueror, who was from Normandy, which is to say France, invaded and conquered England. French became the language of the courts of law and the court of the King. It was the language used by educated people and by lawyers and judges. The Magna Carta, written in 1215, was written in Latin and translated into French, but not into English, not into Anglo-Saxon. The nobility and all the upper crust spoke French, and only the poor uneducated conquered people of the region spoke English, and virtually nothing at all was written in English until approximately 1350 when Chaucer wrote The Canterbury Tales, which was in part a vulgar sort of poem and written in a vulgar language, according to the snobbery of the day.

In English, cunt is the word denoting the female genitalia, and vagina is the French (Romance - Latinate) equivalent. Cunt is a noun. It has a clear denotative meaning. It is a perfectly good word. However, it has a bad connotation, and not for any better reason than that the upper class, the ruling class, spoke French and considered anything in English to be vulgar, a thousand years ago.

Like all members of the underclass, speakers of English were prosecuted more often and punished more severely under law than their French speaking betters. For this reason our laws are sprinkled with phrases giving French and Anglo-Saxon equivalents so the poor dirty ill-spoken underclass could understand the gravity of the charges against them. A statute I had occasion to read in earnest lays a duty on the citizens of my state to be careful (Anglo-Saxon) and cautious (Latinate). I heard an interviewee on NPR recently who was an officer in a not for profit corporation who said that she "worked together (Anglo-Saxon), collaboratively (Latinate)" with other non profit organizations. The thousand year old snobbery is still alive today. This despite the enormous success of English, despite the utter failure of French to become the language of England.

There is an aspect to the matter that has to do with the tendency of unlettered people to use words solely for their connotations, often without even the slightest attention to the plain meaning of the word. Once upon a time the word 'gay' meant something like happy or joyful.

I heard a man complaining about his middle aged middle son (the third of five children) who borrowed his boat and did not return it. It was near a holiday and the man wanted his boat back, and bitched about his son, calling him a bastard and a mother fucker before he calmed himself. To him, these words had NO DENOTATIVE MEANING. They were the merest expression of the intensity of his unhappiness. I am willing to bet Dad and Mom were married to each other when the son was conceived, and I am also willing to bet the son never had sex with his mother.

Was it poor taste to speak of the son in this manner? Yes, of course it was.

The woman who tells her lover that she wants his prick in her cunt is using perfectly good language with a clear meaning and in a frank and arousing way. And in plain English.

I do not object to this usage. But when the word is used to convey the intensity of distaste for a person, then I too object to that usage. It is the usage of the ignorant, unable to express the meaning of his or her disaffection. I can object to the ignorance and the disaffection, but I cannot ennoble myself by adopting a long forgotten snobbery.

[charles-smythe]

There is something important missing in this thread, and that is a little bit of the history of the English language, the most successful language on our planet, with more literature and more good literature than any other language, and this is often attributed to its ability to include words from other languages. I adore my native tongue, and believe it has greater powers of expression, meaning, nuance, precision, concision, and (of course) has more idioms and lends itself to puns and other delights beyond any other language. English has its origins in Anglo-Saxon and the Teutonic branch of languages, as distinct from what are called the Romance languages, those languages descended from the language of the Romans: principally French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian.

However, English was not the official language of England after 1066 when William the Conqueror, who was from Normandy, which is to say France, invaded and conquered England. French became the language of the courts of law and the court of the King. It was the language used by educated people and by lawyers and judges. The Magna Carta, written in 1215, was written in Latin and translated into French, but not into English, not into Anglo-Saxon. The nobility and all the upper crust spoke French, and only the poor uneducated conquered people of the region spoke English, and virtually nothing at all was written in English until approximately 1350 when Chaucer wrote The Canterbury Tales, which was in part a vulgar sort of poem and written in a vulgar language, according to the snobbery of the day.

In English, cunt is the word denoting the female genitalia, and vagina is the French (Romance - Latinate) equivalent. Cunt is a noun. It has a clear denotative meaning. It is a perfectly good word. However, it has a bad connotation, and not for any better reason than that the upper class, the ruling class, spoke French and considered anything in English to be vulgar, a thousand years ago.

Like all members of the underclass, speakers of English were prosecuted more often and punished more severely under law than their French speaking betters. For this reason our laws are sprinkled with phrases giving French and Anglo-Saxon equivalents so the poor dirty ill-spoken underclass could understand the gravity of the charges against them. A statute I had occasion to read in earnest lays a duty on the citizens of my state to be careful (Anglo-Saxon) and cautious (Latinate). I heard an interviewee on NPR recently who was an officer in a not for profit corporation who said that she "worked together (Anglo-Saxon), collaboratively (Latinate)" with other non profit organizations. The thousand year old snobbery is still alive today. This despite the enormous success of English, despite the utter failure of French to become the language of England.

There is an aspect to the matter that has to do with the tendency of unlettered people to use words solely for their connotations, often without even the slightest attention to the plain meaning of the word. Once upon a time the word 'gay' meant something like happy or joyful.

I heard a man complaining about his middle aged middle son (the third of five children) who borrowed his boat and did not return it. It was near a holiday and the man wanted his boat back, and bitched about his son, calling him a bastard and a mother fucker before he calmed himself. To him, these words had NO DENOTATIVE MEANING. They were the merest expression of the intensity of his unhappiness. I am willing to bet Dad and Mom were married to each other when the son was conceived, and I am also willing to bet the son never had sex with his mother.

Was it poor taste to speak of the son in this manner? Yes, of course it was.

The woman who tells her lover that she wants his prick in her cunt is using perfectly good language with a clear meaning and in a frank and arousing way. And in plain English.

I do not object to this usage. But when the word is used to convey the intensity of distaste for a person, then I too object to that usage. It is the usage of the ignorant, unable to express the meaning of his or her disaffection. I can object to the ignorance and the disaffection, but I cannot ennoble myself by adopting a long forgotten snobbery. …very interesting…thank you…

[Visexual]

Just ask Elizabeth Hoffman, the ex University of Colorado President. She testified that the ‘C’ word was a term of endearment when she defended her school’s football team’s use of the word to refer to a female who was trying out for the kicking position years ago. Oh, and btw, she was later fired.

And about the words penis or cock?

A, self-proclaimed, womanizer decided to get married and found the most innocent virgin he could find to marry.

On the wedding night he decided to enlighten her, so he had her take off her top and asked her what she called her knockers. She answered, “breasts’.

He laughed and informed her they were tits and now his tits to enjoy.

He then took off her pants and panties and asked her what she called that.

“She timidly said, “vagina”.

He laughed and informed her that it was called a pussy and it was now his pussy to enjoy.

He then took off his own pants and underwear and asked her what she called that.

She looked down and answered, “penis”.

He, again, laughed and said it’s called a cock and it’s going to be her cock to enjoy.

She looked at him confused and answered, “I know what a cock is and that’s a penis”.

[Melody Dean]

There is something important missing in this thread, and that is a little bit of the history of the English language, the most successful language on our planet, with more literature and more good literature than any other language, and this is often attributed to its ability to include words from other languages. I adore my native tongue, and believe it has greater powers of expression, meaning, nuance, precision, concision, and (of course) has more idioms and lends itself to puns and other delights beyond any other language. English has its origins in Anglo-Saxon and the Teutonic branch of languages, as distinct from what are called the Romance languages, those languages descended from the language of the Romans: principally French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian.

However, English was not the official language of England after 1066 when William the Conqueror, who was from Normandy, which is to say France, invaded and conquered England. French became the language of the courts of law and the court of the King. It was the language used by educated people and by lawyers and judges. The Magna Carta, written in 1215, was written in Latin and translated into French, but not into English, not into Anglo-Saxon. The nobility and all the upper crust spoke French, and only the poor uneducated conquered people of the region spoke English, and virtually nothing at all was written in English until approximately 1350 when Chaucer wrote The Canterbury Tales, which was in part a vulgar sort of poem and written in a vulgar language, according to the snobbery of the day.

In English, cunt is the word denoting the female genitalia, and vagina is the French (Romance - Latinate) equivalent. Cunt is a noun. It has a clear denotative meaning. It is a perfectly good word. However, it has a bad connotation, and not for any better reason than that the upper class, the ruling class, spoke French and considered anything in English to be vulgar, a thousand years ago.

Like all members of the underclass, speakers of English were prosecuted more often and punished more severely under law than their French speaking betters. For this reason our laws are sprinkled with phrases giving French and Anglo-Saxon equivalents so the poor dirty ill-spoken underclass could understand the gravity of the charges against them. A statute I had occasion to read in earnest lays a duty on the citizens of my state to be careful (Anglo-Saxon) and cautious (Latinate). I heard an interviewee on NPR recently who was an officer in a not for profit corporation who said that she "worked together (Anglo-Saxon), collaboratively (Latinate)" with other non profit organizations. The thousand year old snobbery is still alive today. This despite the enormous success of English, despite the utter failure of French to become the language of England.

There is an aspect to the matter that has to do with the tendency of unlettered people to use words solely for their connotations, often without even the slightest attention to the plain meaning of the word. Once upon a time the word 'gay' meant something like happy or joyful.

I heard a man complaining about his middle aged middle son (the third of five children) who borrowed his boat and did not return it. It was near a holiday and the man wanted his boat back, and bitched about his son, calling him a bastard and a mother fucker before he calmed himself. To him, these words had NO DENOTATIVE MEANING. They were the merest expression of the intensity of his unhappiness. I am willing to bet Dad and Mom were married to each other when the son was conceived, and I am also willing to bet the son never had sex with his mother.

Was it poor taste to speak of the son in this manner? Yes, of course it was.

The woman who tells her lover that she wants his prick in her cunt is using perfectly good language with a clear meaning and in a frank and arousing way. And in plain English.

I do not object to this usage. But when the word is used to convey the intensity of distaste for a person, then I too object to that usage. It is the usage of the ignorant, unable to express the meaning of his or her disaffection. I can object to the ignorance and the disaffection, but I cannot ennoble myself by adopting a long forgotten snobbery.

And this is what I love about Show!

[JayGrimm]

THE CREATION OF A......VAGINA

Seven wise men with knowledge so fine
Created a pussy to their design.

First was a butcher, smart with wit,
Using a knife, he gave it a slit.

Second was a carpenter, strong and bold,
With a hammer and chisel, he gave it a hole.

Third was a tailor, tall and thin,
By using red velvet, he lined it within.

Fourth was a hunter, short and stout,
With a piece of fox fur, he lined it without.

Fifth was a fisherman, nasty as hell,
He threw in a fish and gave it a smell.

Sixth was a preacher whose name was McGee,
He touched it and blessed it and said it could pee.

Last came a sailor, a dirty little runt,
He sucked it and fucked it and called it a cunt.

[Annika L]

...

I do not object to this usage. But when the word is used to convey the intensity of distaste for a person, then I too object to that usage. It is the usage of the ignorant, unable to express the meaning of his or her disaffection. I can object to the ignorance and the disaffection, but I cannot ennoble myself by adopting a long forgotten snobbery.

Remind me why we haven't chatted in ages? :tongue:

[charles-smythe]

THE CREATION OF A......VAGINA

Seven wise men with knowledge so fine
Created a pussy to their design.

First was a butcher, smart with wit,
Using a knife, he gave it a slit.

Second was a carpenter, strong and bold,
With a hammer and chisel, he gave it a hole.

Third was a tailor, tall and thin,
By using red velvet, he lined it within.

Fourth was a hunter, short and stout,
With a piece of fox fur, he lined it without.

Fifth was a fisherman, nasty as hell,
He threw in a fish and gave it a smell.

Sixth was a preacher whose name was McGee,
He touched it and blessed it and said it could pee.

Last came a sailor, a dirty little runt,
He sucked it and fucked it and called it a cunt. …LOL…I loved it…

[pole_smoker]

THE CREATION OF A......VAGINA

Seven wise men with knowledge so fine
Created a pussy to their design.

First was a butcher, smart with wit,
Using a knife, he gave it a slit.

Second was a carpenter, strong and bold,
With a hammer and chisel, he gave it a hole.

Third was a tailor, tall and thin,
By using red velvet, he lined it within.

Fourth was a hunter, short and stout,
With a piece of fox fur, he lined it without.

Fifth was a fisherman, nasty as hell,
He threw in a fish and gave it a smell.

Sixth was a preacher whose name was McGee,
He touched it and blessed it and said it could pee.

Last came a sailor, a dirty little runt,
He sucked it and fucked it and called it a cunt.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Too funny!

I once read a short story where there was a character named "Fish cunt Sam".

[showmeguy]

Remind me why we haven't chatted in ages? :tongue:

meet me at the corner :)

[charles-smythe]

…haven’t we settled the ‘cunt’ issue yet?...

[jem_is_bi]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Too funny!

I once read a short story where there was a character named "Fish cunt Sam".
Did you enjoy it?

[HappyHedonic]

[QUOTE=tenni;285903]Is the use of the word “cunt” on bisexual.com derogatory towards women and misogynistic?

For me the word in general is derogatory and misogynistic when it is describing the whole woman as opposed to just as a label for her vagina.


Is the use of the word “cunt” on bi.com (http://bi.com) attracting bisexual women or turning them off?

I am a bisexual man, so I can't answer this one.

Does the use of the word "cunt" attract and arouse male bisexuals to bi.com?

It does not attract nor arouse me.

Should the use of the word "cunt" be encouraged and rationlized as all PC bullshit concerns?

I do not think use of the word should be encouraged, but I do not think it should be banned either. People who use the word "cunt" in a derogatory misogynistic manner are pretty obvious about where their minds are at and will attract those that agree with them and repel those that disagree with them.

[Melody Dean]

Why Consciously Awake Women Are “Cunts”Posted by Adina Rivers (http://mytinysecrets.com/author/featurex/)on May 18, 2014

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Adina Rivers (http://mytinysecrets.com/author/featurex/)Visit Author's Website (http://mytinysecrets.com/)

About Me
Lover of Life, Love & Sensuality. Optimist. Believer. Natural Beauty Advocate. Minimalist. Living life outside the box; where the magic happens.

To many the word “cunt” is one of the most vile, obscene and vulgar swear words in the English language. But while researching the origins of this word I was amazed to find out that in its original meaning we, consciously awake women (http://mytinysecrets.com/sexy-consciously-awake-women-who-we-are-what-we-want-need-from-men/), might all be “cunts”. Sacred cunts.

It seems that the reasons why the word ‘Cunt’ is perceived a bad word are no longer in our consciousness. When I’ve questioned people about why they find it offensive they struggle to say why ‘IT JUST IS, RIGHT!”. If everyone knew the wonderful and varied origins of the word ‘Cunt’ we would all be shouting it from the tree tops in celebration of the Cunt, the gateway to life itself.
Linguists have debated for a long time over the true roots and it is impossible to really know exactly where it is originated. The prefix ‘cu’ has been deemed “quintessentially feminine” and pre-dates written language. Therefore it can be found in the forms of ‘cu’, ‘qu’, ‘ku’, ‘coo’, ‘qy’ or ‘cy’.
From Cherish The Cunt (http://cherishthecunt.com/)
The Meaning, Magic and Power of the Word “Cunt”#1 A spiritually, enlightened woman
The word ‘Cunt’ in the vernacular means vagina. The word itself was originally a term of respect and reverence for a powerful, spiritually enlightened woman. ‘Cunt’ derives from ‘Kunda’ or ‘Cunti, the Oriental Great Goddess. She was the Great Yoni (Sanskrit = Source of all life) of the Universe, where all life came from and to where all life returned for renewal.
(I am researching about the origins of this description. I have found it on various online resources, but no reference to a book or author is mentioned)
#2 A High priestessI recently came across the book “Phallic Worship” (http://www.amazon.com/Phallic-Worship-History-Sexual-Rites/dp/1859581951) which explored how “Cunts” have been high priestesses who had sexual union with people to bring them to a higher level of spirituality.
#2 A woman with divine power & life-giving abilityWestern transcribers of ancient texts were shocked to find that the term ‘cunt’ was synonymous with ‘women’, but what they did not realize was that the term was not being used as an insult, rather an acknowledgement of the divine power and life-giving ability they bore.
#3 The latin origin of the word “cunt”The most immediate sources is the Latin word ‘cunnus’, meaning the vulva. (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_profanity#Cunnus:_the_vulva)) Its ‘poshest’ form is in the word for that loveliest of erotic pleasures, ‘cunnilingus’. A related Latin word is ‘cuneus’, a wedge, rather descriptive of the cunt itself and also found in the word ‘cuneiform’ (which will be described later in this article).
(Source: Comment section “Cherish the Cunt”)
#4 Other derivates of the word cunt‘cunabula’ = a cradle (and like the mother’s womb, protects and soothes the child)
‘Cunina’ = the Roman goddess who protected cradled children.
‘Cunctipotent’ = being all powerful; having cunt magic
cunning, kenning and ken.
How Did the Word “Cunt” Became A Cuss Word?It is said that scholars from the Medievals Ages onwards were embarrassed by sacred places, and female genitalia shrines identified with the word ‘cunt’, failing to understand it’s original meaning, and labelled these sacred places as the devilish cunts – ‘cunnus diaboli’. Western Society and it’s revulsion of all things female for a long time might have turned the word into something obscene and nasty.
The author George Scott of “Phallic Worship” (http://www.amazon.com/Phallic-Worship-History-Sexual-Rites/dp/1859581951) explains that it was mainly the male dominated christian church who bastardized the word “cunt”.
The Origin Of The Word Cunt In Different Parts Of The World#1 The Meaning of “Cunt” In Tamil
In Tamil, Kunda means pot/vessel and is also used as a slang term for vagina. It’s related to Kundalini, which resides in your Kunda. In Tamil, the K sound is a tad bit softer than in English. So, the way native speakers say Kunda is somewhat between how English speakers would say Cunda and Kunda.
Researched by Cherish the Cunt
#2 The Meaning of “Cunt” In Africa
The word “Kunta” means “Woman” in several African languages. Ancient writings mention the North African Goddess “Kunda Saharan” and her tribe which are called “The Kundas”. Kunda people are still around today and reside in Mozambique, Zambia & Zimbabwe.
Researched by Cherish the Cunt
#3 The Meaning of “Cunt” Sumeria (Ancient Iraq)
Here the word ‘Kunta’ means literally ‘one who has female genitalia’. This is linked with the word ‘Cuneiform’ which literally means ‘the sign of the cunta’ or ‘queen who invented writing’. Cuneiform is one of the earliest known forms of writing in Sumeria dating at c.3100 BC. At around the same time there were priestesses named The Quadesha who were accountants at the Temple of Inanna. It is highly likely that Cuneiform was the form of writing the Quadesha used on clay tablets to record the temple’s financial accounts thus making it ‘the Sign of the Cunta’.
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Inanna was the goddess of love, war, fertility and lust. She was associated with the celestial planet, Venus. She was known as Queen of Heaven and the word ‘Qu’ can also mean love, sensuality, sexuality, the divinity present in all females. She is also connected with extramarital sex and sensual affairs, prowling streets and taverns for sexual adventure. There are hymns from Sumerian sacred texts which glorify Inanna’s sexuality and sang praises to her beautiful and soft Cunt. Interestingly the Quadesha are also cited in some texts as ‘Sacred Whores’.
Researched by Cherish the Cunt
#4 The Meaning of “Cunt” in India
It is believed that the word ‘Cunt’ came from the Proto German word ‘Kunto’ which is said to have come from the Indo-European word ‘Kunti’ which is the name of a much respected and revered Hindu goddess who was also known as ‘Cunti-Devi’ and is said to be the ruler of ‘Kunta’ which we know as ‘Kundalini’ energy.
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The snake like feminine energy that travels up our spine. Legend stories say how she sang to the gods to call them to sleep with her. She eventually had a son with the Sun God, Surya and ‘The Teachings of Queen Kunti’ can still be read today. Many say that ‘Cunt’ derived from the Oriental Great Goddess Cunti, also known in ancient Hinduism as the ‘Yoni of the Universe’ (yoni means ‘sacred temple’ in Sanskrit and is used to describe the womb and cunt). Also Indian children who were born out of wedlock were know as ‘Kuntas’ and revered as gifts of the Goddess Kunti’. The word ‘Kunda’ is also used in India for a hole or pit in the ground (agni-kunda, fire-pit) for storing fire on alters in the Vedic religion.
Researched by Cherish the Cunt
#5 The Meaning of “Cunt” in China, Japan and Korea
Remembering the ‘CU’, ‘QU’ and ‘KU’ connection, we can understand how ‘Cunt’ is believed to be linked with the popular Buddhist Goddess of Compassion and Mercy is ‘Kuan-yin’ or ‘Quan Yin’ or ‘Kunnon’. Researched by Cherish the Cunt
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She carries the Goddess and Divine Mother aspect of Buddhism and is generally regarded by many as the protector of women and children and is also seen as a fertility goddess capable of granting children. Some say ‘Cunda’ was the name of the Buddha’s mother according to the Japanese but all I can find is that is was possibly the name of a female blacksmith who fed the Buddha his last meal of either mushrooms or pork. He fell violently ill and then became enlightened.
Researched by Cherish the Cunt
#6 The Meaning of “Cunt” in Ancient Canaan, Eygpthttp://cdn.mytinysecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/quwen.jpg

Here, Qudshu or Qetesh is venerated as the fertility goddess of sacred ecstasy and sexual pleasure and is depicted holding snakes in one hand and a lotus flower in the other as symbols of creation. She is called ‘Mistress of All the Gods’, ‘Lady of the Stars of Heaven’ and ‘Great of magic, mistress of the stars’.

[tenni]

Thanks for posting this Melody!

The point remains that cunt is not perceived as sacred in western English speaking countries.

[showmeguy]

Why Consciously Awake Women Are “Cunts”

Posted by Adina Rivers (http://mytinysecrets.com/author/featurex/)on May 18, 2014

we would all be shouting it from the tree tops in celebration of the Cunt, the gateway to life itself.
From Cherish The Cunt (http://cherishthecunt.com/) [Adina Riverson's blog]




Omg, Melody what a marvelous discovery, I think I am I in love with Adina Riverson. I think you are in love with Adian Riverson too. Thank you so much for this amazing research.

(sings) Cherish is the word that I use to describe........

[elian]

Some friends of mine once told me that that word (and its equivalent in other languages) is even worse than all of the other swear words combined, since then I have tried not to use it at all, even though I often have bouts of "tourettes" while applying the other swear words quite liberally in traffic.

Since you brought up the "sacred" aspect - the only thing that reminds me of are Georgia O'Keeffe paintings of "flowers" and some of the anecdotes about archways in Gothic Cathedrals having that certain look to them..

https://www.google.com/search?q=georgia+o%27keeffe+paintings&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch

[Melody Dean]

I think you are in love with Adian Riverson too.

You know me too well...

[pole_smoker]

Some friends of mine once told me that that word (and its equivalent in other languages) is even worse than all of the other swear words combined, since then I have tried not to use it at all, even though I often have bouts of "tourettes" while applying the other swear words quite liberally in traffic.


Your "friends" are incorrect, and do not know any other languages besides American English.

[DMercator]

I played a weekly card game with three women, two of whom were lesbian. The conversation would often drift to sex... lots of teasing and joking. When the topic of the word "cunt" came up I was surprised to find all three women found the word highly offensive. Our conversations would often get graphic and even raunchy without anyone objecting, but they definitely didn't like the idea of a man referring to their pussy as a cunt. Big no-no from their perspective.

[pole_smoker]

I played a weekly card game with three women, two of whom were lesbian. The conversation would often drift to sex... lots of teasing and joking. When the topic of the word "cunt" came up I was surprised to find all three women found the word highly offensive. Our conversations would often get graphic and even raunchy without anyone objecting, but they definitely didn't like the idea of a man referring to their pussy as a cunt. Big no-no from their perspective.
Lesbian women are notorious for becoming offended at everything, being way too PC, not living in reality, and thinking it's OK for them to be misandrist or hate/bash on men simply because they are lesbians.

[darkeyes]

Lesbian women are notorious for becoming offended at everything, being way too PC, not living in reality, and thinking it's OK for them to be misandrist or hate/bash on men simply because they are lesbians.
I expect nowt else from Poley Pillock than yet another attempt to turn things round on other folk to destract from his own idiocy, misogyny, sexism, homophobia and general stupidity. O well... his will b copped one of these days.. ☺😉

[DMercator]

Lesbian women are notorious for becoming offended at everything, being way too PC, not living in reality, and thinking it's OK for them to be misandrist or hate/bash on men simply because they are lesbians.

If that description fit my friends, we probably wouldn't be friends. I took them at their word and respected what they had to say.

[pole_smoker]

I expect nowt else from Poley Pillock than yet another attempt to turn things round on other folk to destract from his own idiocy, misogyny, sexism, homophobia and general stupidity. O well... his will b copped one of these days.. ☺
If you or anyone else, wants to see examples of, and read actual idiocy, misandry (hatred of men/the male sex/male gender or someone that likes to man bash), biphobia/homophobia, racism, sexism, and general stupidity they or you can read your own posts. ;) :rolleyes:

[pole_smoker]

If that description fit my friends, we probably wouldn't be friends. I took them at their word and respected what they had to say.
When you or any man is not around, that's when they get really misandrist and bash men; but sometimes stuff will slip out or they'll claim it's a joke when you are around, or it will be a slow burn gradually over time.

[DMercator]

So your theory is that when you aren't around lesbians say bad things about you because you're a man? :rolleyes:

I don't think your gender is the problem.

[pole_smoker]

So your theory is that when you aren't around lesbians say bad things about you because you're a man? :rolleyes:

I don't think your gender is the problem.
Where did I claim that lesbians said this about me? They don't. However I have hetero female friends who have been around lesbians and told me all about what they're like when men are not around.

I did however claim that a lot of lesbians are very in general both when men are around, and when we are not. But then when confronted with it they'll claim, "Oh it's a joke..." or "I don't really hate men..." :rolleyes:

[darkeyes]

Where did I claim that lesbians said this about me? They don't. However I have hetero female friends who have been around lesbians and told me all about what they're like when men are not around.

I did however claim that a lot of lesbians are very in general both when men are around, and when we are not. But then when confronted with it they'll claim, "Oh it's a joke..." or "I don't really hate men..." :rolleyes:
So really u haven't a clue about lesbians? Nothing 2 b ashamed of.. U've been told by peeps who aren't lesbians:tongue:? Bit like listening to tales outa school tho isn't it? Tales from kids in 1 school about wot kids in another r like an' get up 2.

[DMercator]

So really u haven't a clue about lesbians? Nothing 2 b ashamed of.. U've been told by peeps who aren't lesbians:tongue:? Bit like listening to tales outa school tho isn't it? Tales from kids in 1 school about wot kids in another r like an' get up 2.

They really do need a "like" button on this forum.

[Melody Dean]

They really do need a "like" button on this forum.
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[Cum1st]

My wife prefers beaver.

[JaredT77]

I really don't like the word and I do think it's really offensive. To me, that word is just as offensive as the racist word towards black people. Or the racist word for Hispanics. I just don't use those words. I will never even call a woman that word. A bitch is a bitch and shouldn't be called anything else.

I actually have a friend that used to be my friend with benefits several years ago. She's the rare occasion of a person that is offended by the word "pussy" and prefers the other word.