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slipnslide
Dec 9, 2011, 7:45 PM
I haven't been here in a while because I sort of forgot about it. Why? I managed to get over my bisexuality! Yay!
So for those of you who are miserable being bi, it could be temporary, simply a side effect of a low mood or mild depression.
Get your shit in order and *boom* - it goes away! I had a realisation the other day about how happy I was, and then realised that I haven't had any bi urges in months and months. It's a good feeling!
Jobelorocks
Dec 9, 2011, 7:59 PM
I have to say that I am not at all miserable being bi. I am the happiest I have ever been living a bi lifestyle with my amazing and supportive husband.
I am not quite sure what to make of your post, but if you hated being bi and haven't had urges for a while, then I guess good for you for being happy.
void()
Dec 9, 2011, 8:37 PM
If it is as you say then you would have no need visiting here again. Behold, you are here again. You are still on my ignore list.
I still believe people can change. That is why I read this post. Unfortunately, you prove it is only wishful thinking in your case. Okay. I'll return to ignoring you.
Maybe some day you may actually change. Not holding a breath for it. By the by, I'm still happy being bisexual. A great deal of the 'misery' I face is from other sources.
Things like people being jerks seems to cause a bit of misery, for example. Also the several trillions of dollars our government has given to banks has some effect. Of course, you would not be aware of this.
You keep proving yourself to be a jerk. Change that, I might actually talk with you. If not, ignore here works fine.
Long Duck Dong
Dec 9, 2011, 8:46 PM
it goes hand in hand with the understanding that some body can * choose *your sexuality.... people with mental illnesses like some forms of depression, can enter depressive stages where they enter into sexually expressive periods that are not part of their normal behievour
it has a lot more to do with trying to * stabilise and balance * than actually having sex with other people, as a lot of the desire and need is not sexual, its emotional and mental
lol it makes perfect sense to me as I do have dysthimia which is a form of personality based depression, v's clinical, bi polar, pre and post natal, chronic, substance induced, medical etc depressions...... but I have often found that people that lack a mental illness that influences their emotional and mental states, are less likely to understand or relate.......
its a lot like people with legs trying to tell a legless man what its like to try and run with no legs :tong::tong:
and before anybody says anything.... there is a difference between a bisexual person with a mental illness and a person that is mentally ill and using sex as a means of support to help them regain their feet or stop the * depressive withdrawals *
void()
Dec 9, 2011, 9:10 PM
"a bisexual person with a mental illness"
Thanks LDD.
LoveBothWorlds
Dec 9, 2011, 9:21 PM
Mental illness has nothing to do with sexual orientation and vica versa. Dysthymia is a lesser depression and it has nothing to do with personality. It's a neurochemical phenomenon and people with all different types of personalities are affected. There is also Major Depression, Bipolar Affective Disorder, Depressive type, Substance Induced Mood Disorder, and Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Now, it may be true if someone is decompensated psychiatrically they could engage in sexual behavior that may be atypical of them in a healthy state of being. But, if for whatever reasons a persons decides to check out the bisexual site, engage in same sex encounters, depressed or not, it is not a reliable predictor of their future sexuality because sometimes people change and sometimes they don't.
What we hope for is that people with mental illness, just like any other illness, are able to recover and become healthy again and enjoy the many benefits, joy, and connectedness of life on this planet.
elian
Dec 9, 2011, 9:37 PM
I would imagine that to some extent things can change if a person does not have a lot of experience in relationships or understanding of themselves. If someone has low self esteem or has been hurt in some way perhaps they feel safer reaching out for comfort from someone with the same sex.
Levels of hormones also change as we grow and age
However I would also assume that there is a "norm" for a certain person. I don't have the hard link to back it up but I've heard that a lot of the ways we behave are imprinted on us when we are young and will carry on into adulthood. I can't say that's absolutely true but people i meet again from junior high school say that I look the same and still have many of the same mannerisms. My mom says she even still recognizes behaviors that I exhibited when I was a baby.
I'm happy for you slip n' slide, as long as you feel healthy and loved that is what is important. It's not a shame to be who you are, it's not a shame to grow and change as we gain experience, the shame comes from trying to FORCE someone to be something they are not.
Darkside2009
Dec 9, 2011, 9:43 PM
I haven't been here in a while because I sort of forgot about it. Why? I managed to get over my bisexuality! Yay!
So for those of you who are miserable being bi, it could be temporary, simply a side effect of a low mood or mild depression.
Get your shit in order and *boom* - it goes away! I had a realisation the other day about how happy I was, and then realised that I haven't had any bi urges in months and months. It's a good feeling!
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Strange, that we were only talking about you today, and here you are. Coincidence? Or have you been reading the threads on the forum?
pepperjack
Dec 9, 2011, 9:45 PM
Is trying to recover from a broken heart a mental illness?
falcondfw
Dec 9, 2011, 10:09 PM
If it is as you say then you would have no need visiting here again. Behold, you are here again. You are still on my ignore list.
I still believe people can change. That is why I read this post. Unfortunately, you prove it is only wishful thinking in your case. Okay. I'll return to ignoring you.
Maybe some day you may actually change. Not holding a breath for it. By the by, I'm still happy being bisexual. A great deal of the 'misery' I face is from other sources.
Things like people being jerks seems to cause a bit of misery, for example. Also the several trillions of dollars our government has given to banks has some effect. Of course, you would not be aware of this.
You keep proving yourself to be a jerk. Change that, I might actually talk with you. If not, ignore here works fine.
Void,
C'mon now. Tell us how you really feel. lol. Poignant commentary, as always.
keefer201
Dec 9, 2011, 10:30 PM
I haven't been here in a while because I sort of forgot about it. Why? I managed to get over my bisexuality! Yay!
So for those of you who are miserable being bi, it could be temporary, simply a side effect of a low mood or mild depression.
Get your shit in order and *boom* - it goes away! I had a realisation the other day about how happy I was, and then realised that I haven't had any bi urges in months and months. It's a good feeling!
Could this be an example of the "trolls" you were talking about Void? He is the most important person here and he did get his shit together, so that may quailify even if he isn't. My question is; why did he feel the need to come back and alert us to his new found realizations?
Long Duck Dong
Dec 9, 2011, 11:27 PM
Mental illness has nothing to do with sexual orientation and vica versa. Dysthymia is a lesser depression and it has nothing to do with personality. It's a neurochemical phenomenon and people with all different types of personalities are affected. There is also Major Depression, Bipolar Affective Disorder, Depressive type, Substance Induced Mood Disorder, and Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Now, it may be true if someone is decompensated psychiatrically they could engage in sexual behavior that may be atypical of them in a healthy state of being. But, if for whatever reasons a persons decides to check out the bisexual site, engage in same sex encounters, depressed or not, it is not a reliable predictor of their future sexuality because sometimes people change and sometimes they don't.
What we hope for is that people with mental illness, just like any other illness, are able to recover and become healthy again and enjoy the many benefits, joy, and connectedness of life on this planet.
dysthimia (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001916/)
The exact cause of dysthymia is unknown. It tends to run in families. Dysthymia occurs more often in women than in men and affects up to 5% of the general population.
Many people with dysthymia have a long-term medical problem or another mental health disorder, such as anxiety, alcohol abuse, or drug addiction. About half of people with dysthymia will also have an episode of major depression at some point in their lives.
see the part about most people with dysthymia, have another mental illness disorder ?????? mine is a personality based disorder that is tied in with the dysthymia and despite many tests by experts, it remains undefined.....
dysthymia ( the neurochemical issue ) may well be play a part in my asexual nature ( lack of sex drive, not sexual attraction ) as it is known to me that the asexuality can be treated if I so choose
what is it with people and drawing lines in the sand and saying anybody in a situation must conform rigidly to the * rules *..... even the common cold affects differently people differently, not everybody has the same symptoms.....and its cos we are all unique and things affect us all differently.....
but what would I know, I am only as unique as every single other person in the world, so clearly I can not know what i am talking about, no unique person can, unless they fit within the set parameters of * conformity * as defined by the other unique people in the world, who create the *rules of conformity *
void()
Dec 9, 2011, 11:32 PM
Could this be an example of the "trolls" you were talking about Void? He is the most important person here and he did get his shit together, so that may quailify even if he isn't. My question is; why did he feel the need to come back and alert us to his new found realizations?
"Could this be an example of the "trolls" you were talking about Void?"
Possibly a troll, yes. I'm content expressing an opinion of them as being a jerk. And if a troll, possibly only one alias used. Trolls are known to be like the mythic hydras. They use many names yet are all the same jerk/s.
As I said, I have no desire to talk with jerks or people whom play games. If they alter these behaviors, try being more tolerant of others I may want to talk again. Otherwise I can happily ignore them.
Before it is broached. I am not asking for civility. I am asking for common decency, humanity. We are on a site which discusses humanity. Should not be much of a stretch to infer maturity, respect of self and others applies.
"My question is; why did he feel the need to come back and alert us to his new found realizations?"
Have a few suspicions about that. Will only say here it may have to do with immaturity and insecurity. May be wrong. Seems the case more often than not, though. "Look how superior I am."
And I end up saying, "sorry, did I miss something?" If I am not here to play games, pissing wars really hold no interest for me. I'm an average guy, most are. Have kicked ass, have had it kicked. Not ashamed nor proud.
Past is past and never does last, the future makes me run fast while having a blast. *g* I keep on keeping on. Better every day. :)
LDD - Have mentioned it before (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallmann_syndrome). Had some treatment for about two years. I was legally using testosterone as a steroid, only thing was my body did not produce its own. It did not produce estrogen either. I was just a really neutral guy prior to the testosterone. Afterwards, well I lobbed two hundred pound wood apple bins around like rag dolls. Um, guess you can figure it out. *does the knuckles dragging the ground walk & wanders on*
slipnslide
Dec 10, 2011, 12:10 AM
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Strange, that we were only talking about you today, and here you are. Coincidence? Or have you been reading the threads on the forum?
What? Really? No, haven't been reading the threads. The site just popped into my mind today. Strange how somewhere I used to visit so often just dropped out of memory. Remembering the site got me to come back to post an update.
BiDaveDtown
Dec 10, 2011, 1:36 AM
Mental illness has nothing to do with sexual orientation and vica versa. Dysthymia is a lesser depression and it has nothing to do with personality. It's a neurochemical phenomenon and people with all different types of personalities are affected. There is also Major Depression, Bipolar Affective Disorder, Depressive type, Substance Induced Mood Disorder, and Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Now, it may be true if someone is decompensated psychiatrically they could engage in sexual behavior that may be atypical of them in a healthy state of being. But, if for whatever reasons a persons decides to check out the bisexual site, engage in same sex encounters, depressed or not, it is not a reliable predictor of their future sexuality because sometimes people change and sometimes they don't.
What we hope for is that people with mental illness, just like any other illness, are able to recover and become healthy again and enjoy the many benefits, joy, and connectedness of life on this planet.
I agree with you, you clearly do understand mental illness and human sexuality better than some people do.
it goes hand in hand with the understanding that some body can * choose *your sexuality.... people with mental illnesses like some forms of depression, can enter depressive stages where they enter into sexually expressive periods that are not part of their normal behievour
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Nobody chooses their sexuality and your arguments for the idea that sexuality is a choice make no sense to anyone at all.
Long Duck Dong
Dec 10, 2011, 2:03 AM
I look at it from two points of view.....bidave.....
there are no arguments, only opinions
a open mind is like sex.... the only thing that truly limits us, is ourselves.....
the fact that people can not understand that I am not using that its a case of gay today, hetero tomorrow and bi the day after...... is not my problem... they are limited by their own understanding of things.....
its like gay people that tell bisexual people about how there is no bisexuality....
so I will dumb it down...... some mental / emotional aspects in a persons mind and body can lead to a * fake * sexuality in a sense.... they can in effect * choose their sexuality * as we have no way of knowing the default sexuality, we tend to assume that its heterosexual.....
what if its bisexual or gay.......????
the issue is that people that are stable mentally and sexually, can have issues relating to a understanding of people that have a different understanding due in part to mental related issues and disorders..... and the typical ignorance that mentally ill people are of lesser intelligence......
albert einstein was recognized for his genius, not his epilepsy, yet even epilepsy can alter your state of mind......
so before anybody jumps on that, I am not a genius, I failed every subject at school and left when I was 14.... but I understand simple logic... its not what i know that matters, its what i do not know and do not bother to learn, that truly defines a open mind.... well that and I surround myself with close minded idiots, and there is plenty of them in the world and on the net
bityme
Dec 10, 2011, 3:56 AM
I haven't been here in a while because I sort of forgot about it. Why? I managed to get over my bisexuality! Yay!
So for those of you who are miserable being bi, it could be temporary, simply a side effect of a low mood or mild depression.
Get your shit in order and *boom* - it goes away! I had a realisation the other day about how happy I was, and then realised that I haven't had any bi urges in months and months. It's a good feeling!
slipnslide,
Congratulations! I didn't realize it had been that long.
Seems to me that on October 29. 2011 in the thread "A talk with a gay guy got me really confused" you said:
"Gay guys get sad when I tell them I used to be into guys but not so much anymore. Doesn't stop them from texting me hoping that I've changed."
Does that mean you haven't thought about it in a whole 41 days?
Seriously, some people have fantasies that when turned into reality are not what they really wanted. From all the threads you started it is obvious that you struggled with your thoughts of being bi and your experimentations. If you have now decided it is not for you, then live on in happiness and peace. Everyone has to decide for themselves.
There are those who believe that it's just another part of us, natural, without any explanation needed. Others feel it's situational. You are apparently of the later group.
Other posters have given some great info about psychological and psychiatric reasoning. I'll just leave it at "you tried it but didn't like it."
Just one question: I have to agree with Void, if you are over your dalliance, why are you back?
Pappy
Darkside2009
Dec 10, 2011, 6:09 AM
Welcome back kid, if you have made some friends here in the time you were here, there is no reason why you should not come back to visit them.
Your perspective and point of view may well have been broadened by the time you spent here. At least you now know rudeness is not confined to the Heterosexual World.
Read and take part in the threads and chat if you so wish, we are all here to learn from each other, even the grumpy ones. :)
elian
Dec 10, 2011, 9:15 AM
slipnslide,
Just one question: I have to agree with Void, if you are over your dalliance, why are you back?
Pappy
I can't speak for slipnslide but about the middle years of my life thus far questioning my sexuality has been very painful..maybe he wanted to share what he learned with others in the same position?
Recently I've learned to start loving myself for whatever I am and stop worrying so much about what other people "might think"..and now I am considerably happier just by recognizing the value in who I am - sex is only one part of a healthy life..and for some people sex with the same gender is part of a healthy life.
slipnslide
Dec 10, 2011, 5:13 PM
I can't speak for slipnslide but about the middle years of my life thus far questioning my sexuality has been very painful..maybe he wanted to share what he learned with others in the same position?
Yeah, that's all I'm doing, sharing my experience. Usually someone else can identify and there's an *a-ha!* moment where they recognize what I'm saying in themselves and realize they're not alone or crazy.
In much the same way that Dr. Sarno shows back pain can be caused by repressed emotion and not a back injury, I know that when my sexuality starts to shift away from heterosexual that I'm doing something wrong and throwing my body out of equilibrium. Once I get back to getting enough sleep, eating right and exercising, my stress levels (and presumably stress hormones) normalize and my sexuality shifts back to heterosexual.
So for me at least, bisexuality is a symptom of another problem, not a default setting, or the problem itself. Seems some people have a hard time with this perspective because they want everyone to adopt the "I'm bi and I love myself!" mantra as sort of a political ideology. I notice too when I'm out of the bi phase that I'm way calmer and at peace with myself - as I think can be seen in my post. I'm unlikely to engage the trolls because I recognize that they have their own set of demons and perhaps their bisexuality is a manifestation of whatever other problems they're facing.
I don't discount bisexuality as a genuine sexuality for some. I simply recognize that sometimes it might be a symptom of something else, rather than an expression of one's actual sexuality.
void()
Dec 10, 2011, 6:00 PM
Yeah, that's all I'm doing, sharing my experience. Usually someone else can identify and there's an *a-ha!* moment where they recognize what I'm saying in themselves and realize they're not alone or crazy.
In much the same way that Dr. Sarno shows back pain can be caused by repressed emotion and not a back injury, I know that when my sexuality starts to shift away from heterosexual that I'm doing something wrong and throwing my body out of equilibrium. Once I get back to getting enough sleep, eating right and exercising, my stress levels (and presumably stress hormones) normalize and my sexuality shifts back to heterosexual.
So for me at least, bisexuality is a symptom of another problem, not a default setting, or the problem itself. Seems some people have a hard time with this perspective because they want everyone to adopt the "I'm bi and I love myself!" mantra as sort of a political ideology. I notice too when I'm out of the bi phase that I'm way calmer and at peace with myself - as I think can be seen in my post. I'm unlikely to engage the trolls because I recognize that they have their own set of demons and perhaps their bisexuality is a manifestation of whatever other problems they're facing.
I don't discount bisexuality as a genuine sexuality for some. I simply recognize that sometimes it might be a symptom of something else, rather than an expression of one's actual sexuality.
Wow. I am genuinely impressed on your over all communication in this post. Glad you have gotten everything figure out for yourself. If you're happy, not harming others or self, I'm happy for you.
Bisexuality is not a symptom for me. Nor do I feel or think everyone should be bisexual. There are times I may pause in realizing not everyone is bisexual. I do not wish anyone to accept any ideology save humanity, common sense, respect for one another and self.
Your post here seems to display you have these qualities. As I said, happy for you. :)
SoFlaPolyCouple
Dec 10, 2011, 7:38 PM
WoW!! Kinda the opposite for me. I've suffered from clinical depression since childhood and it wasn't until I came to terms and admitted my bisexuality did I finally have peace with myself.
bityme
Dec 10, 2011, 8:03 PM
Recently I've learned to start loving myself for whatever I am and stop worrying so much about what other people "might think"..and now I am considerably happier just by recognizing the value in who I am - sex is only one part of a healthy life..and for some people sex with the same gender is part of a healthy life.
In much the same way that Dr. Sarno shows back pain can be caused by repressed emotion and not a back injury, I know that when my sexuality starts to shift away from heterosexual that I'm doing something wrong and throwing my body out of equilibrium. Once I get back to getting enough sleep, eating right and exercising, my stress levels (and presumably stress hormones) normalize and my sexuality shifts back to heterosexual.
So for me at least, bisexuality is a symptom of another problem, not a default setting, or the problem itself.
WoW!! Kinda the opposite for me. I've suffered from clinical depression since childhood and it wasn't until I came to terms and admitted my bisexuality did I finally have peace with myself.
Lots of lessons learned here. I have to agree that being comfortable with yourself is really important. Thank you all. I guess that having been the way I am for so long and liking myself the way I am, it has not been something I've thought about in quite a while. Your comments brought that back to the surface for me. It's definitely one of the things I should have thought about in conjunction with some of my more recent posts.
Pappy
bigregory
Dec 10, 2011, 11:22 PM
I almost forgot i was Bi.
To many gay relations...
Then about 2-3 mounts ago all i could think of was ....ok blunt here ( pussy)
now its all i can think of
I guess this is normal. I wish I knew..
void()
Dec 11, 2011, 9:58 AM
I almost forgot i was Bi.
To many gay relations...
Then about 2-3 mounts ago all i could think of was ....ok blunt here ( pussy)
now its all i can think of
I guess this is normal. I wish I knew..
Void shrugs.
I go through about four different phases, back and forth. One day "hey, pussy would be great!" Next day, "hey, cock would be great!" A day in between "can't decide, maybe a butterfly!" And yet another day, "aw fuck, people! gotta grrr!"
Then I have days when I awake to an alternate reality. In these times I am a concrete block being an impostor of a toaster. Still others I am made into this plasma like gel which lives in space some distant galaxy far far away.
Don't sweat the small shit. For all any of us truly knows, we're just something in the belly of a turtle somewhere.
pepperjack
Dec 11, 2011, 5:59 PM
Void shrugs.
I go through about four different phases, back and forth. One day "hey, pussy would be great!" Next day, "hey, cock would be great!" A day in between "can't decide, maybe a butterfly!" And yet another day, "aw fuck, people! gotta grrr!"
Then I have days when I awake to an alternate reality. In these times I am a concrete block being an impostor of a toaster. Still others I am made into this plasma like gel which lives in space some distant galaxy far far away.
Don't sweat the small shit. For all any of us truly knows, we're just something in the belly of a turtle somewhere.
Might as well quote Kansas, "All we are is dust in the wind." Seems like a very negative, defeatist, self-demeaning outlook to me; especially coming from from someone who claims to have communicated with the dead. I see them as bright flashes of sparkling light, intelligences.:2cents:
void()
Dec 11, 2011, 8:15 PM
Might as well quote Kansas, "All we are is dust in the wind." Seems like a very negative, defeatist, self-demeaning outlook to me; especially coming from from someone who claims to have communicated with the dead. I see them as bright flashes of sparkling light, intelligences.:2cents:
Well, you're entitled to that view. May disagree with it. We can agree to disagree. Really have no interest in persuading how you think. Glad you do.
bullhead69
Dec 12, 2011, 9:20 AM
I love my sexuality, thank-you!!
Gearbox
Dec 12, 2011, 11:07 AM
I don't discount bisexuality as a genuine sexuality for some. I simply recognize that sometimes it might be a symptom of something else, rather than an expression of one's actual sexuality.
Would you have the same view of your bisexuality being a symptom of something 'unhealthy' if you had enjoyed it?
Or would you view it as a 'healthy' part of who you are?
slipnslide
Dec 12, 2011, 9:53 PM
Would you have the same view of your bisexuality being a symptom of something 'unhealthy' if you had enjoyed it?
I'm not sure what you're asking. I read it as "if you were in a different situation would you feel differently about that situation?" I'm not sure how I can answer that if I don't experience it. The best I could do is ponder it and speculate - but speculation doesn't add to the conversation about my experiences.
Long Duck Dong
Dec 12, 2011, 10:05 PM
Would you have the same view of your bisexuality being a symptom of something 'unhealthy' if you had enjoyed it?
Or would you view it as a 'healthy' part of who you are?
I know what you are saying...... if slip enjoyed his bisexuality and it caused no issues, would he still see it as being part of something * unhealthy * or would he see it as a * healthy * aspect of him even tho it may be connected to a depressive aspect
due to my dysthimia, I went thru a similar thing, I questioned if my bisexual nature, was a *extension * of the depressive aspect of the dysthimia..... and it took me a few years of * testing * myself before I was happy with my * findings * that some bisexual encounters were a result of a depressive stage.... the attraction to both genders was a aspect of me as a person......
what I have noticed is that the asexual nature, the depressive swings and some bisexual encounters are connected to the dysthimia.....
so in my case, if I did not have the dysthimia, I am assuming that its very likely that I would be a sexually active person that would perfer male and female long term partners in a poly setting.... and that the dysthimia, in part, has a affect on my monogamous / asexual nature......
thats at odds with my monogamous nature as a form of loyalty with a partner..... and at odds with my monogamous nature as a aspect of my personal beliefs and faith.....lol.... triad monogamous :tong:
thats the trouble with being human, things are not straight forward and we are very complex beings.... lol :tong:
elian
Dec 12, 2011, 10:12 PM
IF I had a less "abusive" childhood would have have grown up "straight" ?? Maybe.. but I've always sort of been a little different then other "boys" - disliked aggressive competition, very affectionate - that's just the way I was. How society interacts with someone like that and whether they are shunned or not has a lot to do with cultural influences, environment..
I'm sure there is more than one factor (genetics, environment, formative experience) that shaped my current sexual preference and will continue to have an influence in the future.
slipnslide
Dec 12, 2011, 11:29 PM
Would you have the same view of your bisexuality being a symptom of something 'unhealthy' if you had enjoyed it?
Or would you view it as a 'healthy' part of who you are?
I think I understand this better - the bisexuality is a symptom, not a qualified symptom. In other words, a side effect.
If I was really way too happy all the time but it turned out that my happiness was caused by a tumour affecting my brain, would my happiness still be a symptom of something unhealthy? Yes.
You can't really qualify cause and effect though - it just is. You could say in that example that it is "unhealthy happiness" to use your words - but I'm not sure most people think that way.
Plus, if you've experienced any periods of low mood, you know that you don't really enjoy anything. Because of that, it is *impossible* for me to enjoy bisexuality since it doesn't happen when I'm happy.
BiDaveDtown
Dec 13, 2011, 3:48 PM
I think I understand this better - the bisexuality is a symptom, not a qualified symptom. In other words, a side effect.
If I was really way too happy all the time but it turned out that my happiness was caused by a tumour affecting my brain, would my happiness still be a symptom of something unhealthy? Yes.
You can't really qualify cause and effect though - it just is. You could say in that example that it is "unhealthy happiness" to use your words - but I'm not sure most people think that way.
Plus, if you've experienced any periods of low mood, you know that you don't really enjoy anything. Because of that, it is *impossible* for me to enjoy bisexuality since it doesn't happen when I'm happy.
Ahh the old and completely flawed "being anything but heterosexual is a mental illness!" argument. This isn't the 50s, 60s, or early 70s.
Try harder next time, or better yet join the Westboro Baptist church, an "ex gay" group, or other groups where you'd fit in perfectly with your self loathing.
Gearbox
Dec 13, 2011, 6:27 PM
I think I understand this better - the bisexuality is a symptom, not a qualified symptom. In other words, a side effect.
If I was really way too happy all the time but it turned out that my happiness was caused by a tumour affecting my brain, would my happiness still be a symptom of something unhealthy? Yes.
You can't really qualify cause and effect though - it just is. You could say in that example that it is "unhealthy happiness" to use your words - but I'm not sure most people think that way.
Plus, if you've experienced any periods of low mood, you know that you don't really enjoy anything. Because of that, it is *impossible* for me to enjoy bisexuality since it doesn't happen when I'm happy.
I'm not trying to offend you, but have you thought about getting tested for bipolar?
You may be going through a phase of control at the moment, which might account for your loss/suppression of same gender desires.
I'm ONLY GUESSING, because you have a negative view of bisexuality and would seek to rid yourself of it if you had sufficient control. And because your only bisexual in your 'low phases'.
I'm just wondering if you are bisexual, but suppress it in your 'up phase'. That might make 'control&lack of control' symptoms, and not your sexuality.
Once again I am NOT trying to offend and I apologise if I have. But if I've guessed right, this phase wont last long and I'd rather you were prepared, than I say nothing hoping not to offend.
slipnslide
Dec 13, 2011, 6:47 PM
I'm just wondering if you are bisexual, but suppress it in your 'up phase'. That might make 'control&lack of control' symptoms, and not your sexuality.
Once again I am NOT trying to offend and I apologise if I have. But if I've guessed right, this phase wont last long and I'd rather you were prepared, than I say nothing hoping not to offend.
No offense at all.
I don't think it's bipolar disorder. I'd guess my mood barely goes lower than most since it doesn't affect my regular life, and I don't experience the extreme highs.
As I get older I've become much more acutely aware of my mood dropping - likely because of a lack of exercise or sleep. Those are easy to fix.
Suppression is a weird concept here - because I don't actively suppress anything. Perhaps there is a better clinical word. I say suppression sounds weird here because I'm not sure how you can suppress something that isn't there.
All I know is that I was kind of down last winter - as many Canadians are prone to given the lack of sunlight and miserable weather. That was my last same sex encounter. No interest since spring. Lots of offers, lol. But I just sort of chuckle and politely decline.
Gearbox
Dec 14, 2011, 9:07 AM
@Slipnslide- The main thing is that your happy.:) I just hope you continue this way and get through the winter. In the UK we are used to long periods of no/little sunlight.:bigrin: